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From:
EggyToast
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Date:
Mon, 21 Jul 2003 23:14:26 -0400
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Re: RE: [idm] re: IDM MIX CDs
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At 10:26 PM 7/21/2003 -0400, you wrote:
quoted 9 lines Didn't Kid 606 famously not clear the samples on the Mentalist blah blah>Didn't Kid 606 famously not clear the samples on the Mentalist blah blah >fucking Jams CD and it had to be released on the New Zealand-based Violent >Turd label to avoid copyright troubles? So there you have a well known IDM >name ignoring song ownership on a mix CD. And I can't walk into any of the >record stores here in NYC without seeing that CD... its everywhere. > >Of course, there IS also a difference between (ab)using Eminem and Missy >tracks versus tracks by IDM artists that are unlikely to be making any big >time profits on their music.
That and the songs could arguably be safe under parody rulings. I just think he didn't want to deal with that, and wanted to get the music out. Regarding using a sample of a song, the defining moment in court, in my opinion, is whether the sample is recognizeable to the point of obviously stealing. In other words, is it wrong if I use a similar synth sound or bass? No, of course not. If I use a melody in full from a popular album? Well, yeah, because I'm using the popularity of that album to further the success of that particular track.; an album full of mixes of popular songs is doing exactly that -- using all popular songs to sell itself. If they used crappy songs, no one would buy it, and if the songs were unrecognizeable, it wouldn't matter as no one would be able to file the lawsuit clearly anyway.
quoted 2 lines Like most matters with copyrights, its a complicated issue without any>Like most matters with copyrights, its a complicated issue without any >solid answer.
i think it depends on how much of a dumbass one is when creating one's music. Ape someone and don't give them credit> invest in lawyerproof pants. Ape someone and no one can tell> how could they truly prove it in court that it's their sample and not someone else performing something similar but different and *then* mangled? Ape someone and ask kindly for permission> possibly giving them some dough or head to satisfry them. the choice is yalls derek -- eggytoast.com - eggtastic.com ----- it's in your grocer's freezer --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org